The Asymmetric Nature of Evil  

Active Shooter Prevention Training

We are all worried and angry because of the constant attacks against innocent people.  But this problem is made worse by our lack of action, preventing the attacks from happening or reducing the negative impacts if an attack does occur. The Asymmetric Nature of Evil and concern about active shooter attacks have made Americans change their routines by over 50% due to safety concerns.

When we do take action, we often focus only on what happened in the past to help us develop our prevention and response plans.  But, we are not thinking about what is called the “asymmetric” nature of Evil.  Asymmetric means that threats (wanting to commit violence against us) will always seek out our vulnerabilities rather than attack us where we are strong.  Our over-emphasis on reactive planning will only help us with older attack patterns and NOT the adaptive methods that are more likely to take advantage of our weaknesses; when we fail to adapt, we are not as preventative or prepared as we should be.  And as a result, more innocent lives are lost.  

Leaders must understand both – what has happened (Situational Awareness) and what is likely to happen in the near future (Situational Understanding).  Awareness and Understanding are fundamental concepts for future prevention, planning, training, and response.  Active Shooters will seek out the weaknesses of their intended targets (people and property).  Our vulnerability assessments, preferred solutions, training plans, and community outreach must be able to handle more than what happened over the past 1-2 years or even the past 20 years.  We must also “future-proof” our plans based on the asymmetric characteristic of evil people. 

Pre-staging a resource officer and trauma care supplies near the classroom wing (mid-morning) on a school day is a good example of using Situational Awareness for both prevention and response.  Historical data indicates that the classrooms and nearby hallways have a higher probability of an Active Shooter Event, in the morning, compared to other locations on the school grounds.  This is a good first step, but it is a reactive plan.

Remember, Evil will always seek our weaknesses.  After all, a killer’s intent is to create mass casualties, sow chaos, and create terror; an attacker does not want to encounter resistance (in the form of physical challenge or detection that provides early warning).  We must be prepared for the unexpected by establishing a process that creates greater preparedness.

Situational Understanding will come with time as leaders understand how fundamental problem-solving skills are applied to a comprehensive security plan.

Basic Problem-Solving Skills                                     Comprehensive Security Plan

  1. Identify the Problem                                             Threat Vulnerability Assessment
  2. Collect and Analyze Information                        Threat Assessment Team                    
  3. Determine Courses of Action                            Initial Emergency Action Plan                       
  4. Analyze the Courses of Action                             Tabletop Exercises
  5. Develop a Plan                                                       Revised Emergency Action Plan
  6. Rehearse/Train on the Plan                                 Training, Liaison & Outreach
  7. Evaluate                                                                 Review

These processes will help us find our vulnerabilities.

As an example, we are reading and hearing more about school shootings that fall outside of the traditional “classroom” attacks.  More and more gun incidents are occurring in and around outdoor sports complexes.  Do our Emergency Action Plans account for an incident that occurs outside during a major event, like a football game?  Many security-minded people will have already considered placing additional security in the parking lot after school or during sporting events, but that is hardly understanding, preventing, or preparing for an asymmetric threat.  Thinking in terms of asymmetric threats, have we considered the congested nature of sporting events and what that means to choke points (crowded ingress/egress routes) compared to a threat’s use of Improvised Explosive Devices or drones for kamikaze attacks?  

The point is that we must be prepared for the threats that we are most likely to encounter, as well as becoming more adaptive toward the threat’s future intentions and capabilities which are more likely to cause a catastrophic event.  

This is no longer the realm of the military or a high-end security professional…these are the challenges that all leaders in our communities need to heed and take action upon immediately, or we will continue to read and hear about horrible events where tragedy could have been avoided or mitigated.

Crisis Response Leader Training, Inc is proud to announce that it will be a part of the Active Shooter Prevention Project (ASPP).  We will provide our advisory and technical support to clients of ASPP because we believe the assembled team, under the leadership direction of Chris Grollnek, will positively impact our communities and help save lives.  For the first time, you are now seeing a blended effort of subject matter experts, leaders, hardware and software solutions, and recommended best practices…all under one team effort!  Each organization falling under the ASPP umbrella is unique and highly qualified, and CRLT is excited to be a part of this outstanding alliance.

#NEVERHERE is an achievable goal.  You just have to reach out to the right professionals to get started and make a difference. Tod Langley is the CEO of Crisis Response Leader Training (CRLT).

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Active Shooter Prevention Project P.R.O. Model

The atrocities the country continues to witness in the form of Active Shooter Events (ASEs) create safety concerns for the public trying to live their lives. Enter Active Shooter Prevention Project P.R.O. Model. The daily reports of the ASE create fear, reduce confidence in facility security, and focus far too heavily on the police. The active-shooter event takes place in zero to eight minutes, and the police response is between eight minutes and 12 minutes. A quick assessment of this timeline demonstrates that the people in the public space under attack are the first responders.

Understanding this timeline and creating an open and safe place for people to gather and worship is tolling on even the best security managers. Factually speaking, far too often, these locations have volunteers and lean heavily on the congregation of armed citizens. The reality is that the more a place has deterrents and fewer fortress-like aesthetics, the better the deterrent.

The Active Shooter Prevention Project founder, Chris Grollnek, believes it is incumbent on us all to convey these incidents are not as likely as we would think. It is more appropriate to be prepared and not scared. The “trick” is to understand the vulnerabilities of a location, shore them up, share the changes with the congregants, and create plans. Once a plan is created, it needs to be practiced, and the facility’s posture will change exponentially.

A site physical security and prevention assessment is one way to manage the location’s deficiencies and strengthen the patrons’ confidence. Many people conduct assessments, but the ones who conduct assessments as if peeling back an onion from the inside are the ones with experience. A professional assessment analyzes the facility’s architectural and emergency action plans and observes the site as if it were at capacity. An assessment can begin at any point on a property. The goal is to understand what is in place, what could be added, what needs to be added, and features that are remedies for vulnerable areas.

Assessments can begin at the street view and access control points, fire plans, evacuation routes, and rally points. Moving inside the location, what technology is in place for notification and procedures? Most sites have plans; however, these plans are on someone’s computer and rarely shared and, worse, hardly ever practiced. All of these issues are challenges to security managers or the volunteers asked to help with security. 

The suggestion of most professionals for assessments to prevent active shooter events or minor security events starts in a logical sequence. Therefore, recommendations should be in a logical order; the following is an example.

  1. A prevention assessment of how information is received and disseminated, we call this “connecting the dots.” Most events have people who; “knew” something was wrong before an event. It is known that nearly 50% of all evil-doers tell someone of their intentions before they strike. There are ways to bring this information to the surface before an event, and it should be a focus of building a security plan. Awareity is a fantastic product for this specific task. Chuck Savickis, formerly of the FBI’s elite HRT, has conducted site surveys and assessments at the White House and is creating an exceptional reputation for houses of worship.
  2.  Lunch & Learn(s) 45-minute presentations (staff and public). Educate your staff and patrons that these events are possible but not probable. Understanding the events and how to respond is a great way to manage the fear factor of visitors. Access control procedures and new training for general and daily security and lockdown procedures. This is one of the most important offerings of location planning; share the information. Greg Shaffer of Shaffer Security Group, a former team member of the FBI’s HRT, is one of the country’s leaders in providing these seminars.
  3. Assessing the location deterrents, i.e., glass film, fire doors, access control, and cameras. The vendors for such technology exist across the spectrum.
  4. Physical Gun Presence Notification (A/I tech mentioned earlier) and a communications platform for notification. Omnilert is one of the best notification systems on the market.
  5. A/I gunshot detention platform(s) like an “AmberBox” notification system. These early warning gunshot detection systems notify law enforcement in .3 seconds, whereas a human average is 5 minutes. By reducing 5 minutes of average response time for police, weighing this number from the response time discussed above.
  6. Physical locking mechanisms and barriers. Most facilities have shortfalls, and Wingshield is a fantastic alternative to construction remodeling for ballistic shielding. It is also aesthetically pleasing.

There is a future issue of consideration; Drones. The next generation of security will need to address aerial threats via drones. This is nearly uncharted territory for the civilian markets, but the technology exists, and it will be interesting to watch its development.

These incidents are emotionally tolling on the public. Most people want to “go on about life” while managing their safety concerns. These assessments can be highly beneficial to facilitate that need and desire for the average visit. The only secret to a proper assessment is implementation being reasonable and necessary while sharing your information with visitors.

Chris Grollnek is considered a Legacy Expert and one of the first active shooter experts in the country. With experience advising the highest levels of government, its departments, and agencies, Chris has written domestic policy to address prevention and response to active shooter events. Active Shooter Prevention Project P.R.O. Model.

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How to Secure Your Meeting

Shaffer Security Group (SSG) founder Greg Shaffer, a 20-year FBI Supervisory Special Agent (retired), has designed, implemented, and managed security plans for NFL Super Bowls, NBA World Championships, MLB World Series, State Fairs, NASCAR events, and a host of other large-scale, high threat, “Special Events” across the globe. 

How to Secure Your Meeting Greg Shaffer

Founded in 2015, SSG uses “best practices” employed by the FBI and the U.S. Secret Service, as well as strategies that have been effective for local law enforcement and private security, to develop a detailed and thorough security plan for your meeting or event. Although his focus is on events that often include a variety of VIPs and may be a target for protestors, demonstrators, criminals, or even terrorists, these same “best practices” can be implemented for small gatherings and corporate meetings. 

In the Pre-Planning Phase, SSG recommends you use a “Check List” to address the safety and security challenges that each venue presents, such as: 

  • is the size AND location of the meeting room adequate, 
  • identify and locate all entrances/exits, 
  • can the emergency exits be opened from the outside,
  • is security on-site if they are, are they armed or unarmed, 
  • is there an AED (Automatic External Defibrillator) available, if so, where is it, do you know how to operate an AED,
  • is there a medical kit on-site, if not, bring your own,
  • is the staff medically trained to handle minor injuries, stop the bleeding, administer CPR,
  • how far is the nearest  hospital, and what is the EMS response time, 
  • does the venue have a “hard room” to evacuate to provide protection from severe weather and an active shooter, 
  • can the doors to the meeting room be locked and secured from the inside, 
  • is there enough parking for attendees and is the parking away from the meeting room,
  • can a vehicle be staged near the meeting room for emergency evacuation, 
  • is there a room to store valuable equipment or large items such as equipment containers or suitcases, 
  • where is the electrical panel, and can you shut off the electricity if needed,
  • where is the nearest fire extinguisher,
  • is there a designated protest/demonstration area,
  • is there a police presence on-site, if not, should there be,
  • if food is being served, what is the protocols for food allergic reactions,
  • will the meeting or event be of media interest,
  • is there a designated area for media, and will they be identified as “Press”,
  • is there a need for a “Green Room” or “Down Room” for speakers or VIPs,
  • What is the “Plan of Action” (POA) for demonstrators or protestors,
  • What is the POA for weapons,
  • POA for uninvited guests, to include Posses, Tag-a-longs, Hanger-on’s,
  • POA for un-attended bags or backpacks,
  • POA for Severe Weather,
  • POA for a Medical Emergency,
  • POA for Active Shooter Event,

As a Meeting Planner, you must act as your own security consultant. Greg recommends you conduct your own Threat & Risk Assessment, looking at factors that are relevant to private and public events, such as; how many will be attending your meeting, how many VIPs will be in attendance, is this a political or religious based event, is the date of your meeting relevant from any historical perspective – such as an anniversary of a terrorist attack, and what is the location and duration of your event?

As any meeting planner will tell you, no two events are the same. Special event and meeting planning, response, and management are often case-by-case operations, and for venue managers and event organizers, this can mean revising or even rewriting the “playbook” for each event.

Even before a venue is selected, security considerations should be considered so that a suitable and safe location is chosen. 

Last year a client was hosting a dinner in conjunction with a major sporting event. The guest list included many high-profile celebrities. When my firm was contacted, the venue had already been chosen, and the event was taking place in a few days. Unfortunately, they did not consider the popularity of the restaurant. It was packed and had a lengthy line of patrons waiting to get in. While a private room had been selected, it was on the second floor. There was no plan for how to discreetly get the guests in and out while avoiding delays caused by autographs and selfie seekers. Celebrities risk damaging their reputations if they ignore or refuse their fans’ requests so it created quite a scene. Had security been a focus from the start, our recommendation would have been for a different venue that could assure private, secure access, providing everyone peace of mind. Choosing a venue is just one aspect that can be positively influenced when security is considered in advance of the event. 

Bottom Line – Plan for worst-case scenarios to include extraordinary crimes, violence by protestors, a terrorist attack, and natural disaster – but also be thoroughly prepared to deal with ordinary incidents, such as uninvited guests, large crowds, fights, drunkenness, or small protests.

Remember, the time to develop a security plan is not in the middle of a crisis, and your typical response time for police to arrive on scene is twelve to fifteen minutes.

Greg Shaffer is the author of “Stay Safe – Security Secrets for Today’s Dangerous World” and the founder of the Dallas-based Shaffer Security Group. Greg is internationally recognized as an expert on Active Shooter & Counter Terrorism. Greg also served 20 years as a Special Agent in the FBI, where he was an Operator on their elite “Hostage Rescue Team” (HRT) where he also was the program manager for their Close Protection Training. Greg has trained counter-terrorism teams, SWAT teams, police officers, intelligence officers and civilians across the globe in Active Shooter Response & Tactical Firearms.

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Tactically Focused – Edged Weapon Attacks

Tactically Focused – Edged Weapon Attacks

By Glenn Norling, TBR Consulting, LLC

Published On: December 13th, 2022

American Cop Magazine

This article was recently published in American Cop magazine.  I invite you to read the full article online at:

I would be surprised if the phrase ‘active shooter’ is not already in the urban dictionary. Well, that’s certainly not the complete picture. How many single- or multi-casualty incidents do not involve firearms? What about vehicles used as battering rams? Perhaps our terminology would be more accurately “Active Assailant.” 

Certainly, the ability of virtually anyone to acquire an edged weapon legally or casually is almost without restriction, save for those incarcerated – although that does not deter creative and motivated minds from making a shiv out of basically anything. 

We have all heard the “21-Foot Rule.” Unfortunately, this reasonable attempt to quantify a threat somehow got distorted into an absolute.  It is more of an illustration of action vs. reaction, or a graphic demonstration of how quickly things can go downhill.  

Propaganda from several terrorist organizations has also encouraged the use of readily available edged weapons.   

Also, remember it’s not only firearms that can be used in ambushes – always be mindful of scene security. The red truck in the photo was driven by the suspect in a domestic violence call who left earlier, but then returned while Deputies were interviewing the victim. 

By Glenn Norling, TBR Consulting, LLC

Published On: December 13th, 2022

American Cop Magazine

Glenn Norling, Train Be Ready FBI, Retired

Glenn Norling is a retired FBI Special Agent, and the Owner and Principal Consultant at TBR Consulting LLC, founded in 2020, providing world-class emergency planning, crisis management, and active shooter preparation consultation services and training.

Glenn is a certified FBI crisis manager, an FBI instructor, and FBI adjunct faculty. Throughout his 20-year career, he worked as a field investigator, a field supervisory special agent, as well as a supervisory special agent at the FBI’s Critical Incident Response Group in Quantico, Virginia.

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Be Prepared Without Being Paranoid

Be Prepared Without Being Paranoid

Posted on December 1, 2022, by Aaron Witt

The odds of being killed by an Active Shooter are very low. According to FBI statistics, a total of 1,203 people were killed by active shooters in the United States (U.S.) between 2000 – 2021. That is an average of 54.6 deaths yearly (approximately 1 in 6,000,000). It is possible to be prepared without being paranoid. We can all agree that even one unnecessary death is too many, and we must do more as a society to prevent these tragedies from occurring in the first place. To put these odds into perspective, consider the following: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported there were an average of 62 deaths per year in the U.S. due to hornet, wasp, and bee stings between 2000 – 2017 (approximately 1 in 5,300,000). Additionally, the National Weather Service (NWS) reported there were 43 reported lightning fatalities annually in the U.S. over a 30-year period (approximately 1 in 7,600,000). 

Are you worried about being killed by lightning? If you answered, “No,” why not? Most likely, you were taught at an early age what lighting is, how dangerous it can be, and what precautions to take to mitigate the risk. For example, when the storm clouds start to roll in, and you hear thunder in the distance, you have probably felt a prompting to get out of the pool or to put away the golf clubs and seek shelter. What about when you are driving, and there is lightning? You were probably taught that staying in your vehicle is a better option than getting out and standing on the side of the road. This is because your tires can act as insulators and may help decrease your chances of being injured.

We need to continue educating the public on how to overcome Active Threats using a whole-community approach. There are multiple ways we can help prevent these incidents. In addition to deterrence and decreasing stressors, we need to be focusing on recognizing, reporting, and acting on warning signs. When prevention fails, we must be prepared to SURVIVE at all costs. In order to increase your preparedness level, learn more about Active Threats, develop a survival mindset, and have a plan. We cannot stop all the evil in the world, but we can work together to help limit the loss of life. Stay Safe!

Be Prepared Without Being Paranoid

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Aaron Witt is the Founder and Lead Consultant for A-Train Tactical, LLC.

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Contractor for Active Shooter Prevention Project, LLC
Be Prepared Without Being Paranoid
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A-Train Tactical is an incident ​management consulting firm specializing in helping businesses, schools, and houses of worship prepare for, respond to, and recover from critical incidents using real-world solutions. A-Train Tactical also assists organizations by developing site-specific Emergency Action Plans (EAPs) and scenario-based training exercises to increase overall response capabilities.

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When Violence Visits

Every day, violence is present, and yet we keep moving forward! I post these tragedies to remember the innocent victims, not to spotlight the evil. Are you prepared for when When Violence Visits?

Chris Grollnek Active Shooter Expert
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That said, evil is at our door. In a public statement; the Director of the FBI said; “hate crimes and domestic terrorism warnings were raised to be a “national priority,” and just two days later, Club Q in Colorado suffered an active shooter by one evil doer stopped by two GREAT humans, at the cost of five innocent lives. Club Q, where a community of humans felt safe and ended up targeted. Schools with football teams whom we watch on Saturday, and even Walmart, where we shop. All this in four days, not to mention the tragedies of gang violence inside our cities.

The killer at Club Q was known to authorities and was charged with two felonies one year ago; [they] dropped all charges. The killer at the football bus was a known threat, [they] let him travel on the trip. The Walmart shooter is too early to tell, but he was an employee, and when this comes out, you will know there were warning signs.

We all have choices; we can say, “oh my, I can’t believe this happened,” or we can act, get training to prevent these incidents, or use new technology like gun detection A/I in Omnilert, prevention platforms like Awareity, or a one-of-a-kind barrier like Wingshield to stem the flow and create safe spaces. The solutions are there; the training is no more than a seminar training your mind for the unthinkable. “The body cannot go where the mind has never been” ~ Greg Shaffer, SSG.

Although these incidents are actually infrequent, the fear they produce is real and can be reduced to near zero, and statistics and facts support that. The fear our families feel is accurate, and it’s time to call; if not us, we will get you to someone for some basic understanding of how these unfold, what you can do to increase your chances of survival exponentially, and most impotently, prevent them! Are you prepared for; “When Violence Visits”? Our one-of-a-kind seminar and symposium-style training will reduce the fear, understand the statistics, and prepare you for the “what if” scenarios. Click here to reserve your seminar.

Evil knows no borders; evil exists, and minutes matter ~ Greg Shaffer Shaffer Security Group

A lack of funding is not an excuse for the loss of life ~ Chris Grollnek Active Shooter Prevention Project, LLC

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FBI’s List Of Terrorist Camps In America

FBI’s List Of Terrorist Camps In America

According to the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), America is threatened by 22 Islamic guerrilla communes publishing the FBI’s List Of Terrorist Camps In America… and there might be more! (Terrorist Camps In America first published in 2016) The groups are run by Jamaat al-Fuqra, which is based in Pakistan. Its main front group is “Muslims of the Americas.”

Conservative bloggers such as Pam Geller have focused on their growth since 2007. Now, we have the full list of locations: Is your city on the map?

Domestic Terrorism Prevention

FBI’s List Of Terrorist Camps In America reposted by Active Shooter Prevention Expert Chris Grollnek

In addition, a 2007 FBI record states members of the group have been involved in at least 10 murders, one disappearance, three firebombings, one attempted firebombing, and two explosive bombings and one attempted bombing.

Congress has been aware of Islamic jihadist training camps in multiple states for years. But under Obama’s poor leadership, terrorist attacks are on the rise while these camps are allowed to continue training deadly radicals. We need to be willing to defeat terrorists before they strike. (The opinions in this piece are that of the original author and may not or do not reflect those of the website owner). The information within is for research purposes specifically and to memorialize facts that may be difficult to locate in the future.

Chris Grollnek

re-posted with permission from Freedom Council

(Some or all material is covered in training seminars, booked by appointment)

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Some Source Data from 2016 pulled from: The FBI open-source website * database

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Dealing with Threats of Explosive Devices in American Cities

Dealing with Threats of Explosive Devices in American Cities

An interview with Chris Butler;

“IED Prevention and Mitigation Expert for Active Shooter and Domestic Terrorism”

IED Expert Chris Butler

Identifying and Dealing with IED’s – Interview with EOD technician Chris Butler “Former Unit Member”

Interview Highlights:

The following is a condensed version of the full audio interview, which can be found in the above link at Science of Skill’s SoundCloud station.

Marcus Roth: This is Marcus Roth with The Science of Skill Self Protection Podcast. I’m here with Chris Butler, an IED detection and prevention expert here all the way from Texas. Chris, IEDs in the states is something that doesn’t come up all that often, and when it does it’s always very unfortunate. What exactly led you down the career path of being an IED detection and prevention expert here in the United States?

Chris Butler: After I got out of the Army, which was right at the beginning of the Iraq war, there was a full swing of looking for expertise in dealing with IEDs. There was actually a task force started by the Pentagon due to the fact that there were so many congressmen asking for investigations into why so many troops overseas were dying from these IED attacks. Basically the G3 of the Army at the time, General Cody, started up the IED task force. That was me and several other individuals that were sent over to Iraq to address the problem of how do we deal with IEDs and how do we keep our troops from getting killed by these IEDs. That’s what led me over to the civilian sector of working with IEDs.

MR: What does your job look like now? Are you consulting or are you actually ever in some sort of bomb protective suit? Are you actually on the field ever or is that young man’s work?

CB: Surprisingly a lot of guys stay active in the field and they’re putting on that 80-pound bomb suit and they’re taking that longest walk. I’ve known guys well into their 50s who are doing that kind of work. A lot of times now, I’m an instructor. Can I still throw a bomb suit on and still do it? Yes, because I’ve taught it so much. I know exactly what I’m supposed to do. It’s more of a theoretical exercise. You got to stay on top of it. You got to stay smart. You got to read your intelligence reports.

MR: How might the average unlucky listener come across an IED and what should they do in that scenario?

CB: Their best bet, is if they see something that seems strange and out of place or even if they’re in a strange place they’ve never been before and they somebody sticking something in the garbage can, messing around with it and then walking away very quickly. Basically, if they see something, they should say something but they should also be immediately moving out of the area. You need to get as far away from this is as you can as quickly as you can.

MR: Now let’s imagine a fictional scenario where an IED has just been detonated. What is the first thing, the very first thing a listener should do, and what should they do after that?

CB: It’s pretty close to what they would do if they found one pre-detonation. Let’s just say we have an IED, maybe a large vehicle bomb kind of like the Oklahoma City bombing that took place back in 1996. That bomb was so big, several thousand pounds of ammonium nitrate that it destroyed about a third of that building. There was damage to buildings in a 16 block radius. Say if you’re out in the open and an IED goes off, you obviously immediately need to get out of that area. Stay away from structures that could easily break. Stay away from large windows. Five percent of the deaths in the Oklahoma City bombing were from glass fragmentation. It blew out windows and those windows just cut people to shreds.

MR: Let’s talk about what an IED might look like now. I understand they could be very different given the nature that they are improvised, but there must be some kind of similarities that the average listener may want to be looking out for to detect one…

CB:  Basically, unless this person steals explosives from some mining or quarry company, this person is probably going to have to make explosives. That’s what we call “HME”, homemade explosives. You’re not going to see the big projectile. You’re not going to see the round shape of a mine. You’re probably going to have baggies. Baggies might be in some kind of shrapnel container like a pressure cooker. All that could be hidden in a backpack.

A lot of times in Afghanistan and Iraq, the local populous would see somebody walking down the road with an IED, but they wouldn’t say anything to us. Obviously, because they didn’t like us. They didn’t want us there. That person could move freely. In the United States, however, if you saw somebody walking around with a bundle of dynamite, you know somebody’s going to say something. We have a lot more police. The guy is probably going to get snatched up before he can get to his target destination. Therefore, he knows he’s going to have to camouflage the IED What’s easiest to carry it around in? Do you want to carry around a big pipe for a pipe bomb? No. Probably a backpack or a briefcase. Heaven forbid, we’re getting suicide bombers. Bulky clothing can be hiding explosive vests or belts under bulky clothing. I would say most instances, and this is just my opinion once again, don’t take this as gospel, that an IED most usually is probably going to be in a backpack or a briefcase or some kind of carrying bag to disguise it.

MR: Can we talk about what an IED explosion may look like? How far can the deadly shrapnel travel and what about the shock wave? The nature of IEDs that they’re probably different each time, but in general, what are hard but general facts our listeners may want to know.

CB: It depends on the type of explosives that the person uses, and it also depends on the amount. If it’s a small five pounds of explosive charge, you might see a quick flash and then a lot of smoke. If it’s a larger vehicle bomb, a lot more explosives, it’s up off the ground, then you’re going to see a large fireball and you’re going to see a lot of smoke afterward.

MR: Being behind anything, does that help? Let’s say you jump behind a car and you’re a good distance away. Is that going to dampen the shock wave?

CB: It’ll help work it around you. It’ll help deflect it. It might keep you safe from the shrapnel. It depends on how much explosives, what kind of explosives. Unfortunately that blast pressure, the PSI, it’s not going to really change it that much. It’s more dangerous to be in a building and have a bomb go off because, to put in layman’s terms, that blast pressure gets focused and reverberates. So you’re taking several more hits than you would if you’re in an open field and just one comes washing over you. That’s something to be aware of. Another good reason to get out of the building.

MR: Where can a listener contact you or find more information about the subject if they want to learn from you?

Chris Butler:
They can get in touch through the company I’m working with, it is

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Drill Instructor Sergeant Grollnek

Drill Instructor Sergeant Chris Grollnek, Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, South Carolina, Summer 1997. During the year 1997, while assigned to the Instructional Training Unit, Support Battalion for his quota after training several platoons with 3rd Bn M Company as a Drill Instructor and a Senior Drill Instructor, Sergeant Chris Grollnek and Sgt Cruz were hand-picked to develop and create a sample video for potential Drill Instructors before they would apply to school. The purpose of this video was to assist the Marines putting in for D.I. duty and to demonstrate the gravity of how in-depth the teach back process is to being sucessful at D.I. School.

This video went on to be the cornerstone, for approximately two-years, for candidates attempting to attend the Marine Corps elite Drill Instructor School. At the time of this video production, this school was rated as one of the most difficult Military Schools to complete. Class 2-96, the class number Chris Grollnek attended and graduated in the top three percent of began with 121 Marines while only graduating a total of 61. Upon review and feedback from Marines sent back to their unit was this portion was never given the value it needed before shipping off for school. The number one issue in that time period at D.I. School, on both coasts, was the solitary issue of teach-backs. There were no examples or videos at that time to explain the importance of such detail so the attrition rate would be near unmanageable.

Memorizing and performing teach-backs of the entire Drill Manual in concept was a little more difficult when attempting to do it live. The Commanding Officer of the Depot began with the idea to produce video and send it out to potential candidates to see the gravity of the teach-back and the weight it held for the school itself. This is a sample of several rough cuts, but fun to film in 2-hours with no notice. The memorization was one of the hardest things for many to learn to master before graduation. A drill instructor has to master the entire Drill Manual VERBATIM to graduate.



One of the cornerstones of Marine Corps customs, courtesies and traditions is our execution of close order drill and ceremonies. These traditions are perpetuated from one generation to the next through constant use and practice.  The “esprit de corps” of every Marine has been brought about by their ever-present feeling of pride, not only in their unit, but also in themselves.  The preservation of traditional discipline, our customs and courtesies, and the heritage of our Corps is our duty.  It is our further duty to see that the same high standard of discipline and esprit de corps is not only preserved, but also further strengthened.  These intangibles must be passed on to the future Marines who will take their place among the ranks our Corps.

The object of close order drill is to teach Marines by exercise to obey orders and to do so immediately in the correct way. Close order drill is one foundation of discipline and esprit de corps. Additionally, it is still one of the finest methods for developing confidence and troop leading abilities in our subordinate leaders. Ceremonial duties are written deep into our history as a Corps. It is no coincidence that among the units famous for ceremonial prowess and spit-and-polish are also to be found some of the worlds most redoubtable fighting formations.  The hallmark of the world’s fighting organizations, the Roman legions, the Spartans, the Foreign Legion, the British Brigade of Guards and many others is that they are as good on parade as they are in the field or in the attack.

While we no longer use drill and formations to align the ranks as was done for the phalanxes of Rome or the squares of Waterloo, drill and ceremony is still the foundation of instilling and developing discipline in any size unit and the individual. The Marine Corps has long enjoyed a worldwide reputation for sharp appearance and soldierly performance of duties.  Our reputation as a Corps is built upon the legacy of those that came before us and puts us on par with the finest military organizations in the world’s history.  This reputation has been enhanced by continually demonstrating that our execution of peacetime functions is excelled only by our performance in battle.

The special distinction that the Marine Corps has today in regards to drill and ceremonies is best exemplified by the saying “First on foot, and right on the line.” This privilege bestowed on the Corps by the Secretary of the Navy on 9 August 1876, gives Marines the place of honor in any Naval formation. 

Today we continue the tradition of excellence associated with drill. Beginning with OCS and recruit training we continue to use close order drill as the foundation for developing discipline and esprit de corps. This process is the first step that transforms the civilian into a Marine and then develops the teamwork and unit cohesion. This process then continues in the operating forces through the proper execution of drill and ceremonies to maintain the same level of discipline and esprit de corps found at entry-level training.

This Manual has been the work of many dedicated Marines, past and present. The members of the current drill committee owe all those who have contributed to this collaborative effort a debt of gratitude. Because of this the members of the drill committee in reviewing and updating this Manual have attempted to remain true to this heritage and the traditions of our Corps. This is the first drill manual of the 21st century and we have attempted to provide for the needs of a modern Marine Corps while remaining faithful to the traditions of our past. Extensive research was done to ensure historical accuracy for terms and procedures. Changes were made only to standardize usage and, in some cases, ensure compliance with other Marine Corps directives. Finally, the intent was to produce a manual that would be easy to use.

Reference and Credit:


From: Commandant of the Marine Corps 

To:    Distribution List


Ref:   (a) Marine Corps Manual

Encl:  (1) Locator Sheet

MCO P5060.20

C 06 5 May 03

1.  Purpose. The Marine Corps Drill and Ceremonies Manual is

designed to provide uniformity and standardization for all Marine Corps organizations.  This Manual prescribes procedures for all close order drill and military ceremonial evolutions.

2.  Cancellation. NAVMC 2691.

3. Summary of Revision.  This Manual has been revised to incorporate minor changes to existing procedures and rearrange material more logically.  Additionally, a large amount of new information has been added to the Manual.  This Manual should be reviewed in its entirety.

4.  Scope. This Manual encompasses all close order drill procedures for use by Marine Corps organizations with the exception of Marine Barracks, Washington, DC.  The ceremonies outlined in this Manual are those traditionally executed by Marine Corps units.  The only deviation from procedures outlined in this Manual are those authorized by specific provisions of the Manual.

5.  Recommendation of Modification. Recommendations for improving or modifying the Marine Corps Drill and Ceremonies Manual are invited.

Recommended changes will be submitted to the CG, Training and

Education Command (TECOM), Quantico, VA.


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Overcome Fear with a Safety Plan in Your Nonprofit Workplace

Overcome Fear with a Safety Plan in Your Nonprofit Workplace

By: Active Shooter Prevention Expert Chris Grollnek – Overcome Fear with a Workplace Safety Plan for Active Shooter Prevention

Topic: Active Shooter Prevention in the Workplace and Training for Preventing Violence

Written for: Kathryn Engelhardt-Cronk, MissionBox co-founder and CEO

Kathryn says …

Questions about this level of security and active shooter preparedness for nonprofits is not my area of expertise. Therefore, I’ve called on two individuals with both knowledge and credentials in this field. I take your question very seriously for more than the obvious reasons. We hear daily about horrific acts of workplace violence and we are all concerned for our own safety and the safety of others. I was once threatened with gun violence by an unhinged, angry ex-employee. In my case, the situation was de-escalated, but the fear and stress were real and impacted my entire family.

Chris Grollnek, Active Shooter Prevention Expert says …

Active shooter preparedness covers a wide range of topics and is not just all about the mentally ill or angry individual who walks into your office, shooting. It encompasses more partly because, statistically, you are far more likely to be struck by lightning or killed by a shark than ever be involved in this sort of horrific scenario. More individuals are killed, annually, in automobile accidents in Texas, as compared to workplace gun-related deaths across the U.S.

I am not minimizing the suffering, loss and senselessness of even one person harmed by an active shooter or other violence in the workplace: I am just making the point that most workplace violence, as well as deaths from other traumatic causes, have nothing to do with guns. The media just doesn’t headline every incident of non gun-related workplace violence.

By necessity, active shooter preparedness is far more than gun violence protection-related drills. Good training covers far more common violence preparedness, such as anger-related dangerous behavior (the angry truck driver driving down a bike path in New York, for instance).

An important note: For anyone thinking of taking or contracting for this type of training, any workplace violence preparedness training instructor should be qualified and have extensive experience in this field. It is very important to do your homework! The wrong or inexperienced instructor can create unfounded fears, paranoia and inflict emotional damage, rather than educate employees. And when you interview a potential trainer, ensure that they are not leading with the “fear card.”

It is understandable and reasonable for you and your nonprofit colleagues to feel nervous about this unknown training. Nonetheless, I advise taking the training as a benefit presuming the company-provided the trainer is qualified.

That said, I can offer some reassurance with boundaries. Instead of looking at the training from a place of fear, attempt to view it as comparable to “fire safety training”. While the threat of fire is always there, we still conduct our daily lives knowing we need to be trained and prepared for a fire in our workplace; hence, annual fire safety drills. In the same way, we ready ourselves to remain safe should a fire occur, it’s best to get some general ‘what to do’ training in case of workplace violence. Knowledge is power, always, so don’t be afraid to learn more.”

I extend my thanks to our experts for responding to your question.

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Filed by Chris Grollnek

Active Shooter Prevention Expert and Workplace Violence Policy Production Consultant

Chris Grollnek on OSHA

Chris Grollnek on OSHA and Workplace Violence Prevention

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